[FUG-BR] Fw: Few reasons to stay with BSD

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Muito interessante. O pkg veio para substituir o pkg_* então, ví isso por
aqui na lista mesmo.
E sobre o Virtualbox no FreeBSD, como fica a performace?  Utilizei ele
muito rodando em Debian para ambientes de testes.
Hoje em dia, apesar de ter menos recursos, utilizo o XEN no NetBSD para
virtualização, nada a reclamar.


On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:11 AM, Márcio Elias <marcioelias em gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Nilton Jose Rizzo <rizzo em i805.com.br
> >wrote:
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> >   Desculpem-me o cross-post mas vale a pena ler
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> > Rizzo
> > ---------- Mensagem Encaminhada -----------
> > De:Sergio de Almeida Lenzi <lenzi.sergio em gmail.com>
> > Para:freebsd-ports em freebsd.org
> > Enviada:Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:07:04 -0300
> > Assunto:Few reasons to stay with BSD
> >
> > FreeBSD is still much better,
> >
> > until 7.X there was pkg_*  for a system with few
> > packages ( less than 100) it worked. but
> > as the system goes beyound 1000 packages, pkg_* becomes
> > very slow, and broken.
> >
> > pkg, solved the problem, of working with freebsd if you work
> > WITH pkg, and not against.
> >
> > See my case, for example, I have hundreds of users, that runs
> > 8.X, 9.X and now 10.X. all of them uses gnome 2.32 and software
> > written from gtk2, glade2, python2....  The system have more than
> > 1000 packages, last count shows 1032.. and are updated once a
> > week, everything works..   Some of them uses windows software
> > that now runs on Virtualbox under FreeBSD.
> >
> > I have my OWN server (indeed, 2) for 9.X and 10.X, and all the other
> > servers
> > do is pkg upgrade -y  sometimes they update about 1GB (in the case of
> > libconv, for example)
> > and everything works as expected..
> >
> > If I used pkg_*  plus portupgrade or portmaster in each server, that
> > woud be
> > impossible to mantain..  pkg really made FreeBSD usable  for hundreds of
> > servers.
> >
> > I have some linux on notebooks, that now the FreeBSD have KMS, are
> > being
> > moved to FreeBSD too.
> > On the notebooks (using archlinux), kernel 3.12.3 the notebooks must
> > have a
> > "cold start"  from time to time (once a day), if not, the disk access
> > becomes too slow
> > to the point it is useless.. so a cold start resolv the problem..
> > besides, the software layout
> > that is now all in /usr/bin, the inittab is now systemd, the syslog is
> > journal... and the
> > file system is still ext4, as zfs for inux is not for production yet..
> >
> > Today, as the machines are powerfull,  you can buy an 32 core system
> > with
> > 1TB of memory, 12TB of disk for less than US$10,000.  What you will
> > do???
> > Install windows 8??  no way, windows 2012??? microsoft says it is
> > unstable,
> > 2008??? perhaps, 2003?? phased out..
> >
> > how many users will you put in an Microsoft OS??  at what price???
> >
> > A FreeBSD server running several windows 2008, can handle 200 users (20
> > users per OS)
> > using Virtualbox and ISCSI.  Never stops, never breaks, you can buy ONE
> > windows 2008 and
> > install the other 99 by cloning the machine.  Here the EULA says I must
> > use ONE windows 2008
> > licence in ONE machine,  does not mention what to do if I  Activate 100
> > time the SAME image of  an OVA.  or VHD.
> > (the same for windows 2012).
> >
> > Linux is good???  for sure!!, but FreeBSD+ZFS is better..
> >
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