[FUG-BR] Fw: Few reasons to stay with BSD

Terça Março 25 17:35:48 BRT 2014

O exemplo de estabilidade do FreeBSD foi bom, mas o papinho
dele sobre licenciamento foi meio deturpado. 
Apenas o 2008 Datacenter permite que vários hosts sejam
criados com a mesma licença

http://blogs.technet.com/b/mattmcspirit/archive/2008/11/13/licensing-windows-server-in-a-virtual-environment.aspx

Esse papo de que uma "imagem" possui a licença portanto
posso criar vários vservers, é o mesmo da gatonet: "Ah, mas
o sinal tá no ar. Nao é pirataria quando o ar é publico. EU
só compro o aparelho..."

PS: Desculpem a continuação de top-posting da thread.

Nícolas Wildner
Analista de Infraestrutura de TI
Transportes Bertolini Ltda.
www.tbl.com.br

----- Mensagem original -----
> De: "ADIEL" <adiel.netadmin em gmail.com>
> Para: "Lista Brasileira de Discussão sobre FreeBSD (FUG-BR)" <freebsd em fug.com.br>
> Enviadas: Terça-feira, 25 de Março de 2014 15:18:20
> Assunto: Re: [FUG-BR] Fw: Few reasons to stay with BSD
> 
> Muito interessante. O pkg veio para substituir o pkg_* então, ví isso
> por
> aqui na lista mesmo.
> E sobre o Virtualbox no FreeBSD, como fica a performace?  Utilizei
> ele
> muito rodando em Debian para ambientes de testes.
> Hoje em dia, apesar de ter menos recursos, utilizo o XEN no NetBSD
> para
> virtualização, nada a reclamar.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:11 AM, Márcio Elias <marcioelias em gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Ao ler este e-mail, até senti orgulho do meu trabalho...:D
> >
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> >
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> >
> > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Nilton Jose Rizzo
> > <rizzo em i805.com.br
> > >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >   Desculpem-me o cross-post mas vale a pena ler
> > >
> > > Rizzo
> > > ---------- Mensagem Encaminhada -----------
> > > De:Sergio de Almeida Lenzi <lenzi.sergio em gmail.com>
> > > Para:freebsd-ports em freebsd.org
> > > Enviada:Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:07:04 -0300
> > > Assunto:Few reasons to stay with BSD
> > >
> > > FreeBSD is still much better,
> > >
> > > until 7.X there was pkg_*  for a system with few
> > > packages ( less than 100) it worked. but
> > > as the system goes beyound 1000 packages, pkg_* becomes
> > > very slow, and broken.
> > >
> > > pkg, solved the problem, of working with freebsd if you work
> > > WITH pkg, and not against.
> > >
> > > See my case, for example, I have hundreds of users, that runs
> > > 8.X, 9.X and now 10.X. all of them uses gnome 2.32 and software
> > > written from gtk2, glade2, python2....  The system have more than
> > > 1000 packages, last count shows 1032.. and are updated once a
> > > week, everything works..   Some of them uses windows software
> > > that now runs on Virtualbox under FreeBSD.
> > >
> > > I have my OWN server (indeed, 2) for 9.X and 10.X, and all the
> > > other
> > > servers
> > > do is pkg upgrade -y  sometimes they update about 1GB (in the
> > > case of
> > > libconv, for example)
> > > and everything works as expected..
> > >
> > > If I used pkg_*  plus portupgrade or portmaster in each server,
> > > that
> > > woud be
> > > impossible to mantain..  pkg really made FreeBSD usable  for
> > > hundreds of
> > > servers.
> > >
> > > I have some linux on notebooks, that now the FreeBSD have KMS,
> > > are
> > > being
> > > moved to FreeBSD too.
> > > On the notebooks (using archlinux), kernel 3.12.3 the notebooks
> > > must
> > > have a
> > > "cold start"  from time to time (once a day), if not, the disk
> > > access
> > > becomes too slow
> > > to the point it is useless.. so a cold start resolv the problem..
> > > besides, the software layout
> > > that is now all in /usr/bin, the inittab is now systemd, the
> > > syslog is
> > > journal... and the
> > > file system is still ext4, as zfs for inux is not for production
> > > yet..
> > >
> > > Today, as the machines are powerfull,  you can buy an 32 core
> > > system
> > > with
> > > 1TB of memory, 12TB of disk for less than US$10,000.  What you
> > > will
> > > do???
> > > Install windows 8??  no way, windows 2012??? microsoft says it is
> > > unstable,
> > > 2008??? perhaps, 2003?? phased out..
> > >
> > > how many users will you put in an Microsoft OS??  at what
> > > price???
> > >
> > > A FreeBSD server running several windows 2008, can handle 200
> > > users (20
> > > users per OS)
> > > using Virtualbox and ISCSI.  Never stops, never breaks, you can
> > > buy ONE
> > > windows 2008 and
> > > install the other 99 by cloning the machine.  Here the EULA says
> > > I must
> > > use ONE windows 2008
> > > licence in ONE machine,  does not mention what to do if I
> > >  Activate 100
> > > time the SAME image of  an OVA.  or VHD.
> > > (the same for windows 2012).
> > >
> > > Linux is good???  for sure!!, but FreeBSD+ZFS is better..
> > >
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